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Dream of 20mph city now just a few weeks away



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Published Date:
05 March 2008
PORTSMOUTH is set to become the first city in Britain to reduce most of its residential roads to 20mph.
In just a few weeks almost every street in Portsmouth will have its limit cut after the pioneering scheme started in June last year.

Last week 20mph signs were unveiled in residential roads in Fratton, Copnor, Baffins and part of Buckland.

Now only one more section of the city remains to be covered by the scheme.

This includes Somers Town, Landport, Portsea, Old Portsmouth and west Southsea, which is expected to go 20mph this spring.

Councillor Alex Bentley, who is in charge of traffic and transportation at the city council, said: 'I'm delighted that we're continuing to roll out the 20mph scheme across the city and improve the safety of the people who live in these areas.

'Most of our residential streets are just not suitable for speeds of more than 20mph, and we're sending a message to the reckless minority of drivers that they must drive safely. A pedestrian hit by a car travelling at 20mph is likely to suffer slight injuries, but at 30mph they're likely to be severely hurt.

'At 40mph or above they're likely to be killed.'

The new 20mph signs are being placed where drivers enter the new speed restrictions, and repeater signs act as reminders.

Residents will be consulted in each area before signs go up and the roads included are listed on leaflets sent home with schoolchildren and also made available at libraries, GP surgeries, health centres and community centres.

Road humps will not be part of the scheme, although if speeds do not drop on particular roads, then residents will be consulted again to see if they want additional measures.

In most cases the 20mph limit will be self-enforcing but police say they are monitoring how it is being obeyed.

The scheme, funded by the government, has received interest from other councils, with Norwich already exploring a similar move.

Cllr Bentley added: 'The safer our streets are, the more people will be encouraged to walk and cycle.'


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  • Last Updated: 05 March 2008 8:18 AM
  • Source: NS-City
  • Location: Portsmouth
 
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Graham Wheatley,

Southsea 05/03/2008 10:49:52
I concur with Cllr. Bentley on speed Vs. likely injury sustained by a pedestrian if hit by a moving vehicle.

To a degree, I also concur with his assertion that some of Portsmouth's residential roads are unsuitable for speeds of more than 20mph. However, many are.

In those that are not, it is rarely possible to drive in excess of 20 anyway. The majority of drivers ARE responsible and will restrict themselves to below the assigned limit, as necessary, without having to be told to do so. Cllr. Bentley acknowledges that the measures are aimed at "...the reckless minority of drivers...". If the zones are not enforced then there will be no deterrent effect to that minority.

A word of caution with regard to road humps. A vehicle hitting one at speed is likely to, at best, lose traction and, at worst, become airborne. In the former case, the driver's ability to control the vehicle is reduced. In the latter case NOBODY is in control and a serious accident is highly likely to occur.

I sincerely hope that the accident statistics DO improve with these measures. However I fear that they will not, in which case the whole exercise will have been completely pointless - a view apparently held (at the time of writing) by 75% of the respondents to The News' Daily Vote.

With the proliferation of 'one-way' signs, '20/30' limits and unnecessarily replaced lamp-posts, we are quickly earning ourselves the alternative monicker of "Polesmouth and Signsea".

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David Knight,

Copnor 05/03/2008 13:19:56
Some of us make it our passtime to highlight where the council and the government is going wrong - This is not out of idle barracking but because we hold a deep concern that things are wrong and need to be changed - I am also very concerned with the face presented by political parties on the Portsmouth City Council who seem to give the impression of one line of policy whilst actually taking the other - HOWEVER - credit where credit is due - This is something for which all the members of the council should be appluded for.
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SmokinJoe,

05/03/2008 15:50:08
Great idea, but there are still people who think they are above the law and speed in the new 20mph zones.
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MurF,

05/03/2008 18:21:22
Do the News read their own paper?

Do the council read their 'Complaints' before they comment to the News?

The answer must be NO.

Read the report 'Fight starts to make city road safer' posted on the new site yesterday. It says it all...

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/Fight-starts-to-make-city.3837060.jp

(Quote) 'Residents said the one-way street has been plagued by reckless drivers despite a 20mph speed limit' (Blakemere Crescent).

(Quote) 'If you sat outside here (Blackmere Crescent) for a single day you'd see for yourself – cars come flying down here all the time.'

Also allway avenue , ludlow road and other roads around paulsgrove are being used as race tracks and always have been. The 20mph limit in Allaway has been there for a number of years, including the speed humps. Drivers tend to do 30 down allaway driving through the middle of the humps. Only a few (minority) stick to the speed limit. It seems that it's still a majority of drivers not a minority that break the speed limit (well at 6 in the morning and 6 in evening anyways).

Can't wait till tommorrow when the new report that all the drivers are doin under 20mph, that will really tickle me pink!
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MurF,

05/03/2008 18:28:25
Graham Wheatley:-

Since when have speed humps been a hazard? Don't think I ever heard of anyone going airborn and causing an accident. Most people slow down before driving over them, knowing that they will do damage to their precious vehicle!
Anyway the humps will be in a 20mph limit. Anyone doing over that speed is already breakin the law..... Therefore anyone NOT breaking the law SHOULD NOT have an accident coz there speed is already LOW. The police and council CANT do anything about someone who INTENDS to break the law.
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Scott McGarveys Perm,

Portsmouth 05/03/2008 19:11:17
From what I've seen in the streets in southsea this 20 mph limit is being ignored simply due to the fact there is nobody to enforce it.. much like the use of mobile phones when driving.

It's a good idea in some of the residential roads which have rows of cars parked either side.

As for Speed humps, this is why people have a preference for larger 4x4's now and I can't blame them.
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David Knight,

Copnor 06/03/2008 12:48:21
The issues raised above are about enforcement - because we can not enforce them does that mean we should ignore the issue - Personally I think the council have done the right thing - all we need now are more police to enforce laws or have them not doing pointless paperwork and have them on the streets but this is a government issue and no one in this country can trust the government after their disgraceful betrayal last night of their own manifesto pledge.
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Graham Wheatley,

Southsea 06/03/2008 13:01:48
(5) MurF, your last sentence - that is my point precisely!

Several years ago there was a serious accident on Clarence Parade in the early hours of the morning. The Police accident investigator determined that the vehicle's speed was 'excessive' and likely over 70mph.

There was discussion in the press about whether the council should install speed humps on that section of road to 'prevent' a similar accident in the future.

I can only conclude that sense prevailed and the humps were not installed because everyone realised the likely result of a boy-racer (without a Private Pilot's License) hitting one at 70.

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Simon56,

Portsmouth 06/03/2008 15:00:39
Again, another waste of public money. Will this stop the real culprits I think not. Rather than have some chav race down the road outside my house in his stolen Nova at 80 mph, I would much rather have seen speed humps put in place in most residential streets and so would most of the pensioners in our neighbourhood. Why try to put Pompey on the map for being the slowest town in England...We are all proud of our city but unfortunately can't say the same about our local council who continue to squander public funds on worthless pursuits.
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Rod King,

Warrington 06/03/2008 18:21:41
Congratulations Portsmouth for having the vision and commitment to your quality of life by introducing this initiative.

The decision to recognise that all residential streets will be better for all users by introducing lower speeds is significant. This is a decision that is not being made for a few isolated residents, but the whole community. Local Authorities throughout the UK are looking at what you have done in Portsmouth and wish to understand how they can implement the same in their towns and cities.

20's Plenty For Us campaigns for 20 mph as the right speed limit for all residential roads and next week will be visiting Portsmouth to see what you have achieved.

Rod King
www.20splentyforus.org.uk
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