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Health team set to investigate teacher illness



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Published Date:
07 October 2008
Teachers in Portsmouth are set to come under pressure to cut the number of days they take off sick every year.
The city is already struggling with one of the highest rates of truancy in the country for children skipping school, but now the city council is turning its attention to the amount of time teachers are out of the classroom.

In 2007, 70 per cent of city teachers took at least one day off sick. This compares unfavourably to the national average of 59 per cent, while Hampshire teachers are healthier still with less than half – just 46 per cent – missing a day off school last year.

Now an occupational health team from Portsmouth City Council will visit headteachers at city schools to find out why their staff are missing so many classes.

Portsmouth City Council's assistant head of human resources, Jacqueline Coonie, said: 'When people return we've got to make sure we know what illness they had so we can make a risk assessment. We also have an advice service and we can talk to heads about specific problems.

'We want to see if there's anything that we can do to get them back in school and bring these figures down.

'Our figures are pretty much the same as all the unitary authorities. You can't compare us to Hampshire as many parts of it is leafy countryside while Portsmouth is an urban environment with people living and working close together.'

Teaching unions say teachers will not be overly worried about the extra scrutiny, as teachers absence compares well to other public sector professions.

Keith Gardiner from Portsmouth's branch of the National Union of Teachers said: 'I don't think most teachers would be concerned saying why they've been off.

'In most schools you already have a piece of paper to fill in and management is on top of things.

'In schools you have children who are alive and kicking and need to be looked after and taught all day long.

'They can't be put in an inbox or on a shelf for a week. It's a problem that has to be solved.'

Most secondary schools have a cover supervisor system where non-teachers will sit in on lessons. If the absence persists for three days a supply teacher is brought in.


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  • Last Updated: 07 October 2008 10:43 AM
  • Source: NS-Final
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tum96,

Pompey 07/10/2008 19:43:32
One day a year??? It is not exactly a worrying statistic. Schools are one of the worst places for picking up bugs. The council should be more concerned with the teachers who take more than 5 days off every year or those signed off with stress.
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Jay Ell Dee ,

Waterlooville 07/10/2008 20:19:43
Ah, but one day off is very significant in relation to wonderful working conditions. Let's remember, teachers "suffer" a five day (<6hr a day) week, every single week end off, every bank holiday off, long summer holidays, every christmas off and lets not forget numerous so-called "teacher training days" People in the healthcare profession are more likely to pick up bugs and far worse diseases, and their working hours and conditions are far more severe. Teachers suffering stress? Where? Why?
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Tired teacher,

Portsmouth 07/10/2008 20:38:45
A five day (<6hr a day) week with every single weekend off? I wish that was the case. I'm a full time teacher, i work 70+ hours a week, along with the rest of my colleagues. No way is our job stress free, and I probably put in more hours a week than you care to imagine. Stating that teachers have got it easy is an insult to the profession, do you think we spend our days reading stories, playing make believe and drawing pictures? Do me a favour - spend a day in a school shadowing a teacher (for the WHOLE day mind, from the minute they get in to the minute they leave!) and THEN come back and tell me it's stress free.
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Jay Ell Dee ,

Waterlooville 07/10/2008 20:53:48
I cannot see where I've used the word "easy" hence cannot be accused of insulting the industry. "Reading stories, playing make believe, drawing pictures" that surely relates to primary school teaching where unless I'm mistaken these activities are still taught? There probably is some amount of stress, but my point is there is far more rest time within the teaching profession than with other jobs. Name me any other with six weeks off during the summer? Hence the point of the report, one day off sick along with all the other days off teachers have is indeed a problem, relatively speaking....
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Tired teacher,

Portsmouth 07/10/2008 21:17:49
I teach in a primary school, though not in reception where these activities are taught, i'm afraid we have a far more extensive curriculum to teach once they get a little older. The six weeks off are far from relaxed, with planning and preparation required for a significant part. In addition, other holidays are spent working, including Christmas. It's not 'rest time' in the sense you believe it to be. In what other profession would employees be expected to work these hours? My intention is to give you an insight into the not-so cushy lifestyle you seem to believe teachers lead. Teachers cannot help catching illnesses during term time, it is inevitable. Would you rather that teachers passed on illnesses to the more susceptible children? 1 day off sick is not a problem.
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Jay Ell Dee ,

Waterlooville 07/10/2008 22:39:24
I'm pleased you acknowledge now that there are a range of teaching requirements from reception right up to higher education, I am relieved that my teenagers are not still being read stories etc. Planning and preperation? For what? The curriculum is planned and prepared by the education authority, all you have to do is pass this information on. If you choose to spend your vast holidays on "working", that's commendable, but not necessary. Other professions working long hours you ask? Sure! Doctors, nurses, factory workers, labourers, security guards can all work up to 12 hours a day, that's twice a teacher's day in my maths, and they work weekends, holidays 24/7 shift patterns, Xmas, Easter. A teacher's working day/week/year does not even remotely compare. Indeed teachers are human, and yes they are susceptible to illnesses. One day off is to me IS a problem as a parent who is concerned for my children to get a good education, shame you as a teacher don't feel the same....
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Tired teacher,

Portsmouth 08/10/2008 22:36:27
As i have said previously, once you have taken the time to actually find out what being a teacher involves then feel free to criticise. Until then, reserve your judgements, as your comments are clearly based on nothing more than an assumption, and a misguided one at that. I have not had a day off sick since i started teaching, but would have no qualms in doing so if i was unable to go to work due to illness, as in any other profession. As a parent who is concerned for your children's education, it would do you good to find out more about the environment in which they learn, and the hard work that goes in to teaching them. What kind of an education would they receive if teachers insisted on teaching straight from curriculum planned from the education authority? This does not happen, it is not planned for us! All planning is suited to individual classes and abilities. I will not go into further 'discussion' with you, as you don't appear to be willing to consider a different opinion to your own, which i find very sad.
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tum96,

Pompey 09/10/2008 06:56:44
I agree with everything Tired teacher says and completely disagree with Jay Ell Dee. You really need to come and spend a day in a school. Come and spend the day with a difficult class I teach and you will see how stressful it can be.
I teach in a secondary school and I had two days off last year through sickness. The point is tho that those two days I was feeling awful I still had to get up, ring in and set cover work for all of my classes. If you have a day off do you have to do anything like that Jay Ell Dee???? I doubt it!
Plus why are you banging on about other professions?? Nobody said that the medical profession had it easy and no one said that a teacher’s life was harder.
"The curriculum is planned and prepared by the education authority, all you have to do is pass this information on" Yeah right! If that was all we did then I would agree that you should be worried about your teenager’s education.
As I said before 1 day off a year is nothing to be concerned about and that is not shame on me as a teacher for saying that because if I am too sick to teach what is the point in me being there???
I agree with tired teacher again I don't think there is much point arguing this point with you Jay Ell Dee because you are obviously one of those people who has such a narrow view and opinion that cannot be changed.
So what’s the point.
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Jay Ell Dee ,

Waterlooville 09/10/2008 17:07:18
Tum96 and Tired Teacher have now withdrawn from discussion clearly this conversation is too much ofor them, or the truth is hurting I don't know, I will still comment on your points if I may. I am "banging on" (good english!) about other professions because it was tired teacher who challenged me with the question, I quote: "In what other profession would employees be expected to work these hours?" (for clarification see his/her point 5 above) which is why I enlightened him. I have spent days, weeks, months at schools all around the county working closely with teachers, heads, governors and parents. You have both missed my point completely, one day off along with all the other time off, weekends, holidays, the huge summer holiday is too much, comparitively speaking. That's an awful lot of time off... Additionally, if the job is so stressful and you can't stand the hours and conditions, why do it? Let's not forget the original report, there is a problem, I really hope this occupational health team get to the bottom of things and offer some resolution to your work conditions to reverse the high sickness rate within the teaching profession. As a person who works 12hr shifts, day and night, Bank Holidays, Easter, Xmas and Summer, I'm just pointing out that I'd love to just work Mon-Fri, 8:30-2:30 with all those holidays to boot. Narrow minded? Nope, just bluntly honest I'm afraid, and I apologise if the truth hurts....
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