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Quizzed over terrorism... and all for taking this photograph



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Published Date:
29 July 2008
A man was labelled a terrorist after he took a picture of a police car parked at a bus stop.
David Gates found himself being questioned under the Terrorism Act after he spotted the BMW in the middle of the box reserved for buses, and decided to capture the image on his phone – apparently falling foul of the anti-terror law in the process.

Mr Gates was then questioned by two officers who asked why he had snapped the picture of their vehicle, and they told him he was being quizzed under the Terrorism Act 2000 because the picture could pose a security risk.

They also said this law gave them the right to use stop-and-search powers.

Mr Gates, 42, saw the car in New Road, Copnor, Portsmouth, while the officers were knocking at a door.

He said: 'I explained I'd taken the picture as their car was parked illegally, and taking a photograph in public was not illegal.

'I told them I thought using the Terrorism Act and suspecting me of being a terrorist was ridiculous.'

Mr Gates, an account manager, of St Andrew's Road, Southsea, said he co-operated with the officers and gave his details, which were checked. He was told the record of the incident would be kept on file for a year.

Mike Hancock, the Lib Dem MP for Portsmouth South, said: 'The whole thing is quite bizarre. I don't have a problem with them parking at the bus stop, but I do have a problem with them using this legislation for something trivial like this and keeping it for a year.

'If this was used in Portsmouth 50 times in a year, the statistics would make the city look like a hotbed of terrorism.'

Superintendent Neil Sherrington, the deputy commander for Portsmouth police, said: 'Officers are given powers under the Terrorism Act to stop and search.

'The act states that "this power can only be used for the purposes of searching for articles of a kind which could be used in connection with terrorism, and may be exercised whether or not the constable has grounds for suspecting the presence of articles of that kind".'

He added: 'It is therefore reasonable for the officer in this case to have made reference to the act and been suspicious about why the photograph of the vehicle had been taken.'

He said the officers were dealing with a domestic incident in New Road, and could find nowhere else to park.


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  • Last Updated: 29 July 2008 9:47 AM
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Steve E,

gosport 29/07/2008 12:11:29
I guess this is what you get when we now live in a hitler style goverment!!!!!
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dave ranskum,

29/07/2008 12:41:46
ive seen police pull up and go and get a fish and chip supper whilst on yellow lines.......one rule for one and all that
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Gedwards,

Portsea 29/07/2008 12:52:28
Anti terrorism, or a pompous PC using the law to suit himself? Its so obvious I don't want to comment any further :-)
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Graham Wheatley,

29/07/2008 12:57:55
Dave, Likewise.

I had just pulled-in by the Kings Theatre with a view to nipping in to the Chippie when a patrol car drew level with me. The officer in tha passenger seat gave me a disapproving stare and so I moved on and parked further down the road.

When I had walked back to that location, what should I find parked in that exact same spot? And who else was in the Chippie? Yes, and yes, your assumptions are correct!

So, these officers 'could find nowhere else to park'. How about at one END of the Bus Stop or the other? At least give the Bus Driver a fighting chance, eh?
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29/07/2008 14:41:18
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Kevin George,

Greenville 29/07/2008 14:53:14
In what way is taking a photograph of a person employed by the tax payer an act of terrorism? That really needs defining. Now if it was an undercover agent for MI5 put in a compromising position I can understand it, but not catching a lazy plod.
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spyglass,

cheltenham 29/07/2008 15:13:03
think the expression 'mountain out of a molehill' springs to mind.

so 2 pompous, officious coppers berate a person taking a shot of their illegally parked car and let him go. now if they had beaten him up, shot him or otherwise damaged anything apart from his dignity i could understand all the fuss. bet mr gates doesn't take anothe photo of a cop car in a hurry!!!!
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pompey in china,

yunnan 29/07/2008 16:31:58
Police in portsmouth today are just control freaks, they think they can go around and do what they like... changing the law to suit themselves... why can't they get off there backside and fight real crime...
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TurkTownBlue,

Gosport 29/07/2008 16:37:01
Spyglass, I think you are missing the point. This guy took a perfectly legal picture and now has his details on file for a year. Why the hell shouldn't people record evidence of police acting illegally? My father-in-law was copped for speeding (BY 3MPH) by a camera in an illegally parked police car. Never mind that the police car was causing an illegal risk to traffic eh? I have seen cops pull up a cyclist (quite rightly) for cycling in a pedestrian area but then wave to a colleague who was doing the same thing!

I have great sympathy for the police in general. They do a dangerous and thankless job but there is no doubt some abuse their power and view the uniform as some kind of get-out clause for any misdemeanour. My advice is always ask to see their warrant card. Without it they are just a civilian in a costume and you'd be surprised just how many don't carry theirs.
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Graham Wheatley,

29/07/2008 16:41:00
Spyglass, which is the mountain and which the molehill?

I presume you mean that use of the Terrorism Act is the former and the fact that they didn't like being snapped, the molehill? ;o)

If not then I respectfully suggest that you refer to the relevent section of this document:-

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/media/UKPhotographersRights.pdf

As to Mr. Gates refraining from taking similar pictures in the future, should he be presented with a similar situation; I for one would encourage him to continue to do so.

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