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Published Date:
25 January 2010
A follower of paganism claims a mental health home treatment team member told her she should put her religious items away because of the effect they could be having on her son.
Jemma Hawkins, 29, receives regular visits from a mental health home treatment team because of her bi-polar disorder.

But on one of these visits, Mrs Hawkins says the treatment team member told her she should remove pagan images and accessories from her living room because of her concerns for her 10-year-old son David.

Mrs Hawkins, of Foster Close in Stubbington, was diagnosed with the disorder in November and has been receiving health visits, sometimes daily, to help her cope with the depression.

Mrs Hawkins had several visits from various workers who she praised for their professionalism.

But one of them upset her with her comments.

She said: 'The lady was commenting on my bits and bobs and she said I ought to take them down because she thought it was detrimental to my son's wellbeing.

'Before that we had been talking about how I had been doing and I wasn't feeling too good, so that really knocked me for six.

'I was really angry because Wicca is a recognised religion.

'You wouldn't go into a Muslim's home and ask them to take down their religious items would you?'

Husband Dave added: 'I was quite disgusted.

'What sort of rights have they got to say that to us? But the lady was quite adamant.'

Mrs Hawkins has been a practising pagan for about six years said her son has no problem with her beliefs: 'He thinks it's cool and he's always asking questions about it but I've always stressed to him that just because mum does it, he doesn't have to as well.'

Hampshire Partnership NHS Trust Jamie Stevenson said the team member had been referring to some collectable dolls not connected to religious beliefs, known as Living Dead dolls, which Mrs Hawkins had on display.

He said 'When the support worker went around there and she saw these dolls and she thought they were a bit macabre.

'She then said: "Don't you think you should keep them in your bedroom?"

'We would never give advice on parenting unless they were doing something extremely wrong, which isn't the case here.

'With a mental health patient like Mrs Hawkins we are trying to build a rapport and look after her needs, not to go in and throw our weight around.'

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  • Last Updated: 01 February 2010 8:48 AM
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  • Location: Portsmouth
 
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Mike131,

Nowhere much 25/01/2010 13:25:14
Who the hell do these ''professionals'' think they are? If anyone ever dared try and tell me what I could and couldn't do in MY home they would promptly be pointed in the direction of the door.
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LynW,

waterlooville 25/01/2010 14:04:46
My sweet girly 7 year old grandaughter begged me for a living dead doll for christmas. Only problem its caused is her 3 year old brother loves it too. Speaks for itself I think.
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giles2008,

Portsmouth 25/01/2010 14:47:17
And i presume an image of a man hanging on a cross is considered to be ok. Thats heaps more grotesque than the "Living Dead Dolls".
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giles2008,

Portsmouth 25/01/2010 14:51:56
Actually the Tottenham shirt is a far more horrific object!!
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25/01/2010 15:13:56
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25/01/2010 18:20:19
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CAROLE E B,

25/01/2010 18:41:38
I am being slightly callous here, but since when have these dolls been part of Wicca? NO, they are not, and never have been.

I personally think, that not only moving these dolls to the bedroom is a good idea, but getting rid of them completely might not be a bad idea either under the circumstances.

As someone who has suffered from depression; the look of these dolls, would I imagine, feed on the owners depression, it certainly is a sign of the mental state of the owner. (I say this jokingly as an ex Goth, with tongue in cheek) isn't it the job of a goth to be depressed?

The dolls, are not Wiccan nor do they belong in the practice of Wicca and I personally think this is pure attention seeking for what they can wring out of the story.
The NHS practitioner is there to help and I believe that is what she was doing, there is nothing wrong in her suggestions - those dolls depress me - let alone child or anyone with bi-polar and as she regularly visits the patient, they have already got a relationship and as such, the advise would have been given like any other advice and help given during her time there and should not be made into some sensationalist news-less report.

When we have the tragedies of Haiti and plane crashes is this really nothing more than a bit of title tattle and page filler? It's certainly hardly a report worthy of the name of the news paper; gosh we are scraping the barrel aren't we?

As for Jesus people have an inner acceptance of what Jesus looks like and do from a young age - whereas, living dead dolls, I think are more meant to shock, and are one step off things like Chucky, a lot of folks, are subconsciously or consciously afraid of dolls.. clowns, etc.. as they seem to affect the mental psyche much more than the man on the cross.

I have been Wiccan for 25 years, NEVER have these dolls been part of our religion, in fact I personally think they are commercial TAT and would not give them houseroom and an insult that such a doll real
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LMT,

Pompey 25/01/2010 19:29:33
People can do what they like in their own homes, but don't pretend for a minute that Living Dead Dolls are anything to do with Wicca or Paganism!

Pretending to have a belief so you can claim discrimination undermines the real struggle that some people face on a daily basis.

I'd guess there's only one religion this lady believes in - money! That ancient magic word - 'compensation; - is heading towards this story...
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Whitters,

26/01/2010 00:52:51
LMT - I disagree.

Knowing Jemma, I know its not for the money. She has more respect for the wider world than that.

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