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M27 layout changes are criticised



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Published Date:
04 September 2008
FRUSTRATED motorists have today criticised the new M27 layout.
Since the two new climbing lanes opened on Monday there has been confusion as startled drivers struggle to adjust to the new design which is supposed to make the road safer and less congested.

Drivers are being caught out as the outside, fourth lane is phased out, causing sharp braking and near misses.

Gemma Tait, 25, of Shelford Road, Milton, Portsmouth, said: 'The new layout seems to be causing more harm than good.

'No one seems to know what they're doing.

'When the fast lane disappears it just seems to go to pot. You've got people braking like hell to get in the third lane, or panicking and dangerously cutting people up.'

Jenn Davies-Parker, 45, of Binsteed Road, Buckland, Portsmouth, said: 'People are slamming on their brakes to move over, and then you have people in lane three being stubborn and not letting them in.

'It just seems a nightmare, they should have left it alone.'

Some motorists believe the Highways Agency has made a mistake in its work.

Jerry Clark, of Invergordon Avenue, Cosham, said: 'No wonder we have such bad congestion when the roads department seem to have no idea what they are doing.'

But other drivers say the blame lies with other motorists, not the road layout.

Andy Hawthorn, 27, of The Spring, Denmead, said: 'You can't blame the road layout.

'It's not a one-off design, they have it on the M25, the M3, the M1. People cope there, but it seems that drivers here just aren't looking at the new signs.

'It's the motorists not reading the road causing the problem.'

Roger Jones, from the Highways Agency, defended the road layout.

'The climbing lanes on the M27 have been designed in accordance with the Highways Agency standards for design.

'Drivers have three sets of warning signs, 800 yards, 400 yards and 200 yards in advance of the end of the climbing lane.

'These signs are in both the verge and the central reserve. In addition there is further information in the form of warning arrows and hatched markings at the end of the lane.'


The full article contains 369 words and appears in The News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 04 September 2008 8:11 AM
  • Source: The News
  • Location: Portsmouth
 
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Traveller,

04/09/2008 09:20:35
Normal story - people are not paying attention. This type of road layout happens all over the country but of course if you don't pay attention to the signs what do you expect. Yes, it would have been better with four lanes in both directions from J11 to J12 but that would have cost twice as much and there was no need.
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lady mayor,

04/09/2008 09:26:19
its not so simple
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Sweetktg,

04/09/2008 12:28:20
It is so simple. As in the report, there are two problems. 25% is caused by people not reading the very clear & very obvious signs & leaving it to the last minute before they move back into lane 3, however 75% of the problem is caused by the idiotic drivers in lane 3 who won't let the people back in! Oh yes, and the 4th lane is not an extra lane hogging lane, to all the prats I've seen go into the 4th lane when the 3rd & even 2nd lane are clear!
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MurF,

04/09/2008 12:50:02
'When the fast lane disappears it just seems to go to pot. You've got people braking like hell to get in the third lane, or panicking and dangerously cutting people up'

Gemma Tait needs to get it right. There is no Fast Lane, just two or three Overtaking lanes and a normal lane. Theres no Slow lanes either.

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Johnny ,

Fareham 04/09/2008 15:50:01
There are climbing lanes with the same layout on the M1, M5, even the ones on the M25 don't lead to /extra/ congestion. The M3 just up the road has one.

Only the people of Portsmouth could struggle to use something so simple.
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A Daily Commuter,

winchester to portsmouth 04/09/2008 20:08:32
SAME OLD SAME OLD
DRIVERS NOT PAYING ATTENTION
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Johnny ,

Fareham 04/09/2008 20:31:18
Jerry Clark should be shot. I'm serious.
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Graham Wheatley,

Southsea 05/09/2008 09:16:11
What's wrong with Jerry Clark's comment? He speaks the truth.

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Johnny ,

Fareham 05/09/2008 16:40:40
OK then, was is physically wrong with the new layout? Originally drivers said that the new merge at J11 is confusing, but the exact same layout can be found on the M27 mainline three miles to the east.

As you get halfway up the hill the signs start telling you that the right-hand lane will close. If everyone in the right-hand lane moved over at this point we'd be back to square one, so the drivers quite rightly keep going until they reach the top of the hill, by which time the drivers in lane three refuse to let them out. Yes, there are still some dipsticks in lane four who think they have the right to cut in, but the point remains.

It's people driving around claiming that everyone else has messed up who are causing the problems. How come the same layout works everywhere else in the country?
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