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No common ground on parking debate



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Published Date:
25 June 2008
A PETITION has been launched calling for strict controls on when Southsea Common can and can't be used for car parking.
Already more than 100 residents have put their name to the protest.

At the West Southsea Neighbourhood Forum this week, residents heard that Portsmouth City Council will use the common for 'overflow' parking this summer.

Concerns have been raised that the move will put people, particularly young children, in danger as well as taking away valuable recreation space.

A petition that states the common should only be used for parking in exceptional circumstances, and not as an overflow parking facility, was passed around at the forum, which was held at St Jude's Church in Kent Road, Southsea.

The council has said it intends to allow up to 400 cars to park on the common at weekends if spaces around the seafront are full, this summer.

Speaking at the forum meeting, Cllr Linda Symes agreed that the common should not be used as a car park even if all the other car park spaces in the area had been used

The Conservative councillor said: 'It's not just the people of Southsea that value that space, it is people all over the city.

'This will amount to 17 days over the summer when people will want to use this wonderful space to have a picnic or fly a kite.

'There is no more annoying thing than finding an open space has been turned into a car park.'

Cllr Symes called for a credible park-and-ride plan to be formulated.

Ken Ellcome, the council's parking manager told residents parking space had to be made available to encourage people to continue visiting the seafront.

Mr Ellcome said: 'I agree there should be an alternative but, until there is, we are left with the situation where people are turning up expecting to find a parking space.

'Shall we put up signs to say "sorry, we are closed" or should we try to accommodate them so they want to come back?'

Liberal Democrat member for St Jude ward Cllr David Butler is also against using the common as an overflow car park.

Cllr Butler said: 'I have had so many personal issues raised by constituents on this matter. We need to think through the whole seafront strategy.'

Residents have until Friday to register objections.


The full article contains 399 words and appears in The News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 25 June 2008 9:07 AM
  • Source: The News
  • Location: Portsmouth
 
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Inamess2,

25/06/2008 18:16:57
I think Cllr Symes spoke for all of the residents of Southsea and the people of Portsmouth in general, who use the common for their pleasure. If it is car parking versus barbeques then controlled barbeques on the common become acceptable option. Keep up the good work we need more pro-active people like Cllr Symes. The current Portsmouth City Council administration must be made aware of peoples concerns and act accordingly.
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No_Overflow,

25/06/2008 20:23:59
Parking on the Common should only be for exceptions like charity runs and City celebrations, and should be free. It is outrageous that the parking manager is already assuming the Common is a car park with his sign suggestion, "sorry, we are closed"; the Common is not a car park so how about a sign saying, "Open for play"?
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Fair_Comment,

25/06/2008 21:40:17
People from all over this city have already voted AGAINST overflow of Common car parks, during consultation for the current 10-year plan. Our wishes should not be ignored by a Parking Dept. with monetary targets. Vote against this proposed parking order now or tomorrow by emailing to engineers@portsmouthcc.gov.uk
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Boo22,

26/06/2008 08:17:45
I totally agree that the common is not a place for cars. Once again this re-iterates the statement "Portsmouth City Council, moving backwards day by day".
When the Council dishes out the focus magazine telling it's residents how to be "green" recycle, use public transport etc, then defies logic by welcoming more cars and pollution on our streets by allowing people to park on grassed areas all in the name of profiteering by charging people to park on the grass?? It shows that all PCC is really interested in is money! How very sad, another Govt agency that doesn't lead by example or practice what they preach.
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Inamess2,

26/06/2008 15:05:48
A survey carried out in September 2007 asked local residents the question "Should Southsea Common be kept as an open space and not used as a Car Park"
96% said "Yes" so the current "News" vote at 72% comes up with the same conclusions. Keep Voting, the national media are showing an interest.
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Smileydee,

Portsmouth 26/06/2008 15:06:21
Make your objections very clear and very loud. Our "revered leader" will sell you short if he gets an opportunity. After all he has already given away the top of Bransbury Park having been wined and dined by Southern Water. It could be the thin end of the wedge for the common as well. If he can benefit from it he will take it!
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27/06/2008 08:38:15
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Graham Wheatley,

Southsea 27/06/2008 12:49:55
Mr. Ellcome! The best way to encourage people to come back is to not MUG them in the first place.

You may recall that in 2005 during the IFoS / Trafalgar 200 / Fleet Review there were many onstreet parking areas that were suspended (apparently so as to not present a hazard to the large numbers of pedestrians expected to be in the area). Vehicles were directed to park on the Common.

In some areas the onstreet parking was roped and coned-off so that NOBODY (not even pedestrians) could use that area.

At that time, the on-street all-day charge would have been around £6. Or £10 to park on the Common.

Funny that, eh?
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misguided,

Southsea 29/06/2008 20:45:01
This city is so overcrowded the little open space we have should be available to the citizens of the city, not used as a money spinner for the council,most other cities have a decent park and ride system,if we had allowed Ikea to build at Tipner they promised a 1,800 car park with free park and ride to any other part of the city but the Lib-Dem council and its boss mr Hancock turned them away
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Fair_Comment,

30/06/2008 13:40:50
The notice process for the 'overflow' proposal was a sham. Notices (only on the common) were not posted for the statutory 21 days. The notice to councillors was put out after summer break 2007. Relevant organisations were not informed. Nothing was spotted on PCC's website or The News. PCC should now leave this matter to a full citizens consultation (18 months time?) for the next 10-year plan.
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